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Greg's avatar

Wife and I were deathly ill in late nov 2019. Wrecked for three weeks right after spending time in Miami customs. Everything but loss of taste and smell.

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John Day MD's avatar

The Ethical Skeptic presents a well developed, detailed, graphically supported and logical case that SARS-CoV-2 actually escaped from a Chinese lab in early 2018, spread and mutated more slowly than announced, was kept as a mystery, though Chinese (and other) people were hospitalized a lot in 2018 and 2019. Chinese SARS-CoV-2 cases were actually in a final third-wave peak when "discovered" in Wuhan in late 2019.

Due to natural immunity, China was able to have great success with lockdowns, as it would have had with doing nothing at all.

The rest of the world was misled, but found ways to make political lemonade out of the lockdown-lemon. Regions of Asia and Oceana, like India and Australia, actually had a lot more herd immunity by 2020, which was explained and dealt with in different ways.

The saga of the lost Omicron variant is also investigated in detail. This variant has a last common ancestor with other COVID strains a long time ago, which could (barely) have happened if it derived from an initial lab leak in March 2018, but it may well have been released later, even intentionally, due to its specific engineered characteristics. It is not more deadly, but quite different, and does evade the antibodies to January 2020 spike protein very effectively.

If this virus is actually spread more through (Gross!) aerosolized fecal particles, then a mode of spread to whitetail-deer is readily explained, and also some of the early patterns of mass epidemics in the US. Mapping graphs explain this.

https://theethicalskeptic.com/2021/11/15/chinas-ccp-concealed-sars-cov-2-presence-in-china-as-far-back-as-march-2018/

John Day MD https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/12/reality-flails-narratives.html

Yes, there was also a 3-week-chest-cold going around fall/winter of 2019. I saw lots of people with it and caught it. I later had a COVID antibody test in April 2020, which was negative. I had a patient almost die in the hospital Nov/Dec 2019. All they found was "coronavirus" I learned about it in January 2020. "Coronavirus" was conceptually different by January.

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Amy Peikoff's avatar

And yes, he wrote a great piece, very thorough.

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John Day MD's avatar

Oh, I just see that I was not the first to add that...

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John Day MD's avatar

I hope it is useful. I found it to be completely plausible, but not something readily proven as fact. It is also plausible that COVID got out of Ft. Detrick in May or June 2019:

https://www.johndayblog.com/2021/06/fort-detrick.html

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Amy Peikoff's avatar

Mine was basically a 3-week chest cold, but I also lost sense of smell. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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John Day MD's avatar

Anosmia is a good, early symptom of COVID. My first positive test had that and no fever. I broke rules to test her.

Anosmia is not specific to COVID, but it is more common than with other viruses.

Not quite proof, but substantiation.

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javiero's avatar

Amy, you might be interested in reading this:

https://medium.com/analytics-vidhya/a-novel-hypothesis-previous-ancestor-virus-ba2ae7b10062

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Amy Peikoff's avatar

Yes, thank you. It’s starting to hear about things like this which made me circle back to thinking I had it that early. I wish I’d been convinced before deciding to get vaccinated.

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Monica Hunter's avatar

My husband and I got sick starting mid December 2019 . He got over the event in 5 days .Then I got whatever he had. I had a low grade temp for 11 days and had to sleep sitting up. 4 weeks before I felt normal. Neither of us have been sick since and we were not careful since summer of 2020.

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Amy Peikoff's avatar

Thanks for sharing. If The Ethical Skeptic is correct, and it seems plausible, that would explain what we’ve experienced. Time will tell.

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Dr. Paul Alexander's avatar

entirely possible...we will come to learn.

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